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like a lot of issue we are dealing with, immigration, how we reduce our deficit have strong feelings. we think if you look at the public on some of these measures, i think knute newtown changed the debate. sadly, it took a tragedy like that seeing a lot of people. by the way you democrats and republicans think differently about this issue, post that tragedy. so i think it's going to take a lot of work, it's not going to be easy. but we think we can get to a point, as we said, i think there are 60 votes in the senate, 219 votes in the house, if the process can just play itself out and we can really get votes on some of these things we think. but it's going to be hard work. >> what's -- as far as you're concerned, the window in a second term for a president to get something done? we certainly hear 14, 16 months and then he's kind of in lame duck status. >> i don't believe that let's look at where we are now, not like casting about -- roaming the halls of the house looking for things to do. whether it is deficit reduction, energy, gun control, safety, immigration, these are all stacked u
like a lot of issue we are dealing with, immigration, how we reduce our deficit have strong feelings. we think if you look at the public on some of these measures, i think knute newtown changed the debate. sadly, it took a tragedy like that seeing a lot of people. by the way you democrats and republicans think differently about this issue, post that tragedy. so i think it's going to take a lot of work, it's not going to be easy. but we think we can get to a point, as we said, i think there are...
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we must make the hard choices to reduce the cost of health care and the size of our deficit. but we reject the belief that america must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its future. >> president obama covered a wide expanse of themes and topics in his second inaugural that was shorter than his first one. if you want to sound smart today, tell your friends that yesterday's inaugural address from president obama was exactly 2,114 words long, that's 281 words shorter than the one in 2009. william henry harrison gave the longest inaugural address at almost 8,500 words. washington's second inaugural was the shortest at a concise 135 words. enough with the real news. let's gather around the water cooler. where louis is standing barside. louis? the dangers, huh? >> the dangers of being behind a bar this early in the morning. let me just do this real quick. >> this will be an improved segment now. >> well, yesterday was a big day for vice president biden. wouldn't you say? >> a huge day. >> well, it was in
we must make the hard choices to reduce the cost of health care and the size of our deficit. but we reject the belief that america must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its future. >> president obama covered a wide expanse of themes and topics in his second inaugural that was shorter than his first one. if you want to sound smart today, tell your friends that yesterday's inaugural address from president obama...
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leading republicans are saying without a budget that includes a real plan to reduce the deficit, the nation faces the threat of a credit downgrade. bret? >> bret: mike, thank you. sticking with the tet and deficit issues, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are talking about what to do in a worse case scenario. the government not having enough money to pay its bills. chief political correspondent carl cameron reports on a possible short-term solution that is getting a long look by some people. >> with the white house refusing to negotiate spending cuts and the democrat controlled senate unlikely to pass a budget as part of a long-term deal to raise the tet ceiling, pat toomey of pennsylvania is reintroducing legislation he says will avert the u.s. from defaulting on the debt. >> we must prioritize three categories of payments. one would be debt service, interest on the debt so we would haven't default. a second would be social curt payment to seniors so they don't worry whether the check is coming or not. the third is pay for the active duty military personnel. >> the white house is
leading republicans are saying without a budget that includes a real plan to reduce the deficit, the nation faces the threat of a credit downgrade. bret? >> bret: mike, thank you. sticking with the tet and deficit issues, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are talking about what to do in a worse case scenario. the government not having enough money to pay its bills. chief political correspondent carl cameron reports on a possible short-term solution that is getting a long look by some...
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. >> the debt ceiling was raised in august the political fight in the spot lighted on the deficit and debt problems less s&p to downgrade the u.s. credit rating for the first time in history. >> geithner steered the major economic moves in the first term and now he is stepping down. president obama's pick to replace him is jack lew, who has established a close relationship with the president. lew is not is chummy with republicans on the hill after the debt ceiling negotiation back in 2011. for that reason and others, his confirmation hearing could be bumpy. if confirmed, he will be dealing with the top issue in this second term, how to get the economy moving and addressing the country's long term fiscal problems. >> this is a president that is forced to grapple with the budget woes, with the economy that cannot get over the hump. it will consume most of his time, i believe, in the second term. >> what he cannot do going into the term is go from economic crisis to economic crisis. that is not leadership. he has to figure out how to address this in a broader policy way. our health care
. >> the debt ceiling was raised in august the political fight in the spot lighted on the deficit and debt problems less s&p to downgrade the u.s. credit rating for the first time in history. >> geithner steered the major economic moves in the first term and now he is stepping down. president obama's pick to replace him is jack lew, who has established a close relationship with the president. lew is not is chummy with republicans on the hill after the debt ceiling negotiation...
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had on fox news this week over 80 percent of americans said that you cannot sustain trillion dollar deficits indefinitely. i don't think obama cares at all about that. that is not on his agenda. i think he really is a president who believes his mission is to reduce the inequality. he saw reagan increasing in inequality. he is a leveller. obama care was step one. i crease in spending of the government which was a massive increase in spending. increasing taxation especially on the rich is a third item. i think he wanls to contin-- wa continue that. he wants to get to levels of entitlement that will make much more equality between the classes that's where he wants to go. to do it he will have to raise taxes. that will be one of the number one issues on his agenda to raise taxes way beyond where we have been ever since the reagan era. >> juan, how can that be? he has to see the spending problem that we are in. what do you think the thought process is about that since has done some cuts but not enough to make a difference. what do you think his thoughts are on it? >> when you think of some of the
had on fox news this week over 80 percent of americans said that you cannot sustain trillion dollar deficits indefinitely. i don't think obama cares at all about that. that is not on his agenda. i think he really is a president who believes his mission is to reduce the inequality. he saw reagan increasing in inequality. he is a leveller. obama care was step one. i crease in spending of the government which was a massive increase in spending. increasing taxation especially on the rich is a third...
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that's the smallest monthly deficit in five years. some of that is artificial. people pulling transactions forward because they were afraid of higher tax rates in 2013. but for the first three months of 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking fiscal 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking deficit. so we are in a way chasing a vanishing problem. >> which is interesting, and that would allow for some things that are dirty and things that are not so dirty, would completely perhaps get rid of this problem after a while. do you think we're headed for a full stalemate? >> it's such a shame. i think david is right because we have low debt service right now. we're paying less interest on our debt than we had in the reagan and bush administrations before because interest rates are so low. >> but they're going to go up one day. >> but not for several years. i'll say it, we should be borrowing more at 30-year, 3% terms, so we can invest in the long-term growth of this economy. this is not the time for further austerity and cuts. if we were even to consider that right now, it would be
that's the smallest monthly deficit in five years. some of that is artificial. people pulling transactions forward because they were afraid of higher tax rates in 2013. but for the first three months of 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking fiscal 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking deficit. so we are in a way chasing a vanishing problem. >> which is interesting, and that would allow for some things that are dirty and things that are not so dirty, would completely perhaps get rid of this...
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there's vast support out there for balanced deficit reduction investments in education and manufacturing, immigration reform, gun safety. so on the issues the president intends to really push and focus on, there's massive support in the country even among republicans. let's not lose sight of that, and that's why we're going to do a better job in the second term-- while we're going to do all we can to work with congress and negotiate, to also make sure the american people are connected to what's going on here. i think to really get the kind of change here in washington the american people are going to demand it. but there is really, i think consensus around eye lot of the issues around the country >> what about the idea the republicans have said they will go along with the three-month extension on the debt ceiling increase? are you going to be-- does that help? >> well, it's helpful that they have now dropped their demand, that the only way they're going to pay the country's billes, they themselves racked up, would be to extract some concessions. we've got to never again have this threat
there's vast support out there for balanced deficit reduction investments in education and manufacturing, immigration reform, gun safety. so on the issues the president intends to really push and focus on, there's massive support in the country even among republicans. let's not lose sight of that, and that's why we're going to do a better job in the second term-- while we're going to do all we can to work with congress and negotiate, to also make sure the american people are connected to what's...
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we'll discuss the gop's deficit dilemma when luke russert joins us next on "now." jenna shared her recipe with sharon, who emailed it to emily, who sent it to cindy, who wondered why her soup wasn't quite the same. the recipe's not the recipe... ohhh. [ female announcer ] ...without swanson. the broth cooks trust most when making soup. mmmm! [ female announcer ] the secret is swanson. mmmm! itbut sleep train's huge foyear eends sunday. salels, get beautyrest, posturepedic, even tempur-pedic mattress sets at low clearance prices. save even more on floor samples, demonstrators, and closeout inventory. plus, free same-day delivery, set-up, and removal of your old set. don't wait, sleep train's year end clearance sale ends sunday. superior service, best selection, lowest price, guaranteed. ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ >>> today, the house is expected to pass a bill that would suspend the debt ceiling for three months with only republican support. in an about-face, speaker boehner is taking up the democratic position and urging his party
we'll discuss the gop's deficit dilemma when luke russert joins us next on "now." jenna shared her recipe with sharon, who emailed it to emily, who sent it to cindy, who wondered why her soup wasn't quite the same. the recipe's not the recipe... ohhh. [ female announcer ] ...without swanson. the broth cooks trust most when making soup. mmmm! [ female announcer ] the secret is swanson. mmmm! itbut sleep train's huge foyear eends sunday. salels, get beautyrest, posturepedic, even...
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. >> sequestration and budget deficits and all of the rest. >> now, these decisions by loips of both parties over the years of who has been running it to shorten the weeks, it's all been about, well, it gives you time to go home, to be in touch with your constituents. that is the feeling. do you think it is too much time being given to campaigning? that is your argument? >> well, that is the rationale. that is what the public is told. the fact is money has become toxic in politics. that is the other big change. i mean, we're told here two things. one is the one with the most money gets the most votes and, number two, you should be spending 30 hours a week in fund raising and call time dialing for dollars. >> let me stop you there. you're told to spend -- this is on your side they want you to spend 30 hours a week making phone calls for raising money? >> yes. for money. and, you know, i'm not going to do that. i haven't done that. i'm here to govern. but the fact is my last election contest years ago i think i spent like $250,000. the total amount of money in my election contest this
. >> sequestration and budget deficits and all of the rest. >> now, these decisions by loips of both parties over the years of who has been running it to shorten the weeks, it's all been about, well, it gives you time to go home, to be in touch with your constituents. that is the feeling. do you think it is too much time being given to campaigning? that is your argument? >> well, that is the rationale. that is what the public is told. the fact is money has become toxic in...
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did you sense there was a deficit of trust between, say, you and the president early on? in afghanistan? >> if you think of any complex endeavor that you're a part of, and you're going to do it with a team of people, if you don't trust them at the outset, you're going to have to develop trust very quickly. >> and he never chose you in this case. do you think that's the issue? >> i think he was involved. i was chosen by secretary gates, and clearly approved by the president. so i wases his commander. i replaced general mckiran in june of 2010. i think, though, there are a number of things. i think people underestimate the difference between the cultures of the civilian culture and military culture. it's not an opposition. they are just different. so they use different words, different backgrounds. they have a different understanding sometimes of history. plus a new administration comes in, any new administration, doesn't matter which party. and they've got to form a team and they're trying to internally form a team and also trying to form a team with people like dod. i wan
did you sense there was a deficit of trust between, say, you and the president early on? in afghanistan? >> if you think of any complex endeavor that you're a part of, and you're going to do it with a team of people, if you don't trust them at the outset, you're going to have to develop trust very quickly. >> and he never chose you in this case. do you think that's the issue? >> i think he was involved. i was chosen by secretary gates, and clearly approved by the president. so...
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reforming immigration, reducing the deficit gun control, averting climate change, maybe iran's nuclear program. certainly you get a sense it's going to be mainly domestic. certainly if you're looking at the tick box in the first four years, i would say killing bin laden, killing gadhafi, the american help to the arab spring, although it's not without difficulty, pulling troops in iraq and setting a timetable for afghanistan, these have all been a seen that president obama would rather focus on domestic issues rather than foreign issues. >> i think that's true. and i think you see that when he takes the bully pulpit. he doesn't go out and speak well. they' had several blunders on foreign policy issues. the most recent one is a failure for america to retaliate in some meaningful or symbolic way on the death of an american ambassador in benghazi. >> interesting point. the george bush administration would have piled in there, blown things to pieces and exacted terrible retribution. that's the american way for a long time. is that the right way? would that created, however awful the inciden
reforming immigration, reducing the deficit gun control, averting climate change, maybe iran's nuclear program. certainly you get a sense it's going to be mainly domestic. certainly if you're looking at the tick box in the first four years, i would say killing bin laden, killing gadhafi, the american help to the arab spring, although it's not without difficulty, pulling troops in iraq and setting a timetable for afghanistan, these have all been a seen that president obama would rather focus on...
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think that's something the president still needs to work on even though everyone is talking about the deficit right now. i think washington needs to be focused on getting more people back to work. [ male announcer ] kids grow up in no time... marie callender's turkey breast with stuffing is a great reason to slow down. creamy mash potatoes, homestyle gravy and 320 calories. marie callender's. it's time to savor. and 320 calories. ♪ j dreams of landens meet sea, deliciously ♪ ♪ friskies surfin' and turfin' favorites. ♪ ♪ feed the senses. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? >> in algeria authorities say they are still searching for five former hostages missing since the country's special forces ended that four-day standoff with al qaeda affiliated militants. an operation that left at
think that's something the president still needs to work on even though everyone is talking about the deficit right now. i think washington needs to be focused on getting more people back to work. [ male announcer ] kids grow up in no time... marie callender's turkey breast with stuffing is a great reason to slow down. creamy mash potatoes, homestyle gravy and 320 calories. marie callender's. it's time to savor. and 320 calories. ♪ j dreams of landens meet sea, deliciously ♪ ♪ friskies...
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this was an open ended question at the top, economy in general at 21%, goes down to the federal budget deficit, dissatisfaction with government, unemployment, taxes, all the way at the bottom is gun. >> the web video which targets basically the president's children, who have secret service protection, as all children of presidents. over the line? >> based on this poll, he should have been apologizing for those children to breaking their piggy banks to pay for the national debt. that's what americans are concerned about. >> i'm asking you about the web video. >> because his children -- >> which children? >> children he had there on display, because his children, his own children, are well protected. joe biden opened up by saying that schools should be a sanctuary. well, he must have this confused, because the president's girls do go to a sanctuary, well-armed there, but most american kids are not protected at all. >> you don't think the president's children should be off limits? >> i think she should be protected and i think our children should be. i have seven school-aged children. i would hop
this was an open ended question at the top, economy in general at 21%, goes down to the federal budget deficit, dissatisfaction with government, unemployment, taxes, all the way at the bottom is gun. >> the web video which targets basically the president's children, who have secret service protection, as all children of presidents. over the line? >> based on this poll, he should have been apologizing for those children to breaking their piggy banks to pay for the national debt....
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but deficit hawks insist a big deal, a so-called grand bargain is critical for jumping starting u.s. economic growth. >> we've got to reform the tax code and probably raise more revenues than we have and importantly we have to focus on controlling spending and reforming our entitlements which are right now unsustainable. delaying all of this is irresponsible. >> reporter: hard choices ahead whether the congress and the president can come together remains to be seen. christine romans, cnn, new york. >>> and, remember, you can catch a special inauguration coverage right here on cnn live coverage begins on sunday. continuing into monday. our mornings begin at 9:00 a.m. eastern. don't miss it. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have six grams of sugars. with fifteen grams of protein to help manage hunger... look
but deficit hawks insist a big deal, a so-called grand bargain is critical for jumping starting u.s. economic growth. >> we've got to reform the tax code and probably raise more revenues than we have and importantly we have to focus on controlling spending and reforming our entitlements which are right now unsustainable. delaying all of this is irresponsible. >> reporter: hard choices ahead whether the congress and the president can come together remains to be seen. christine...
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that's the deficit. the accumulated annual deficits or shortfalls plus interest make up the national debt. that's more than $16 trillion today. the debt had run up under republican and democratic presidents and congresses. both have had opportunities to tackle it, but it's never politically palatable. president obama formed this simpson/bowles commission, headed by simpson and erskin bowles to cut the debt by $4 trillion over 10 years. critics say president obama has all but ignored it. commission co-head simpson says the growing threat poses a major threat to the u.s. economy. >> where is the tipping point? i don't know where it is, but when it comes, going to be so swift and so savage. >> reporter: obama's plan proposes $360 billion in cuts to medicaid, medicare and other health programs over the next decade. but because costs in those programs are rising fast, the debt would be $6.4 trillion higher in 10 years. the president's budget also proposes cuts to discretionary and mandatory spending that woul
that's the deficit. the accumulated annual deficits or shortfalls plus interest make up the national debt. that's more than $16 trillion today. the debt had run up under republican and democratic presidents and congresses. both have had opportunities to tackle it, but it's never politically palatable. president obama formed this simpson/bowles commission, headed by simpson and erskin bowles to cut the debt by $4 trillion over 10 years. critics say president obama has all but ignored it....
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there is a deficit of confidence, and that's because you have budgetary problems in the united states, you have the eurozone problem, you have china, india slowing down. these other issues are very much on their agenda. so, you and i, as the week will go on, will distill this into what really they're talking. at the moment, the one word to keep in mind, risk. where it lies at the moment. >> and if they think that it's risky, business people and they're trying to get a sense of where we are with the economy if they think it's risky, how is that impacting us? everyday folks here who are looking at their, you know, paychecks and homes and wondering if it's going to change, if it's going to get better. >> reporter: well, this is a fascinating part because the pwc, consulting company, brought out a survey which talks about risks and the crucial parties, the businesses, are brilliant at adapting, being diverse. they are used to these so-called black swan risks that come out. and to answerer your blunt question, what happens, companies don't invest, they don't take on extra employees, they d
there is a deficit of confidence, and that's because you have budgetary problems in the united states, you have the eurozone problem, you have china, india slowing down. these other issues are very much on their agenda. so, you and i, as the week will go on, will distill this into what really they're talking. at the moment, the one word to keep in mind, risk. where it lies at the moment. >> and if they think that it's risky, business people and they're trying to get a sense of where we...
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if there were, we wouldn't have a deficit. let me give you an example. february 15th. i choose that day because that might be the day. might be a little early but it might be the day that we stop being able to mess things around. okay. the federal government on that day will take in an estimated $9 billion in revenues. again, that is mostly taxes. on the same day, $52 million will need to be paid out. we've got a shortfall of $43 billion. they need to prioritize bills on that day. they can put off others. we're not entirely sure that prioritizing payments is legal but that's probably what they will have to do. the treasury could wait until it has enough revenue on hand to cover one full day's payments and means all the bills would be paid late and we know how that storts starts to look. johnny isakson is a member of the senate finance committee. senator, thank you for being with us. i wanted to talk with you for quite some time. you have an extensive, extensive business background. and you can agree that deciding to pay some bills but not others while you wait to scrap
if there were, we wouldn't have a deficit. let me give you an example. february 15th. i choose that day because that might be the day. might be a little early but it might be the day that we stop being able to mess things around. okay. the federal government on that day will take in an estimated $9 billion in revenues. again, that is mostly taxes. on the same day, $52 million will need to be paid out. we've got a shortfall of $43 billion. they need to prioritize bills on that day. they can put...
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the size of our deficit. revamp our tax code. our gay brothers and sisters, hopeful immigrants. >> reporter: expect president obama to tackle immigration reform first. >> our journey is not complete until we find a better way to welcome the striving, hopeful immigrants. >> reporter: the president won an overwhelming 71% of the latino vote in november and it's since become an article of faith that republicans will agree to some kind of immigration reform this year. the american people are on board. a new cnn poll shows 53% believe illegal immigrants should have a path to residency. another goal, national security. >> we, the people, still believe that enduring security and lasting peace do not require perpetual war. >> reporter: as more u.s. troops leave afghanistan, the president is increasingly focused on a new kind of war fighting, shifting from ground troops to a reliance on intelligence and technology, especially drones. >> after more than a decade of war, we are entering a new phase. we continue the president's overarching g
the size of our deficit. revamp our tax code. our gay brothers and sisters, hopeful immigrants. >> reporter: expect president obama to tackle immigration reform first. >> our journey is not complete until we find a better way to welcome the striving, hopeful immigrants. >> reporter: the president won an overwhelming 71% of the latino vote in november and it's since become an article of faith that republicans will agree to some kind of immigration reform this year. the american...
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two months, three months, four months and more if need be when he wants to do big things on debt and deficit, big things on medicare, comprehensive immigration reform, and will be in a fight with republicans over that? this is going to be a test of how long the president is prepared to wage what -- to get hard stuff done to get an assault weapons ban, to get the magazine clips, universal background check is easier, but the president has to dig in and fight and it will be fascinating to watch. >> this is a statement we have gotten from the nra, national rifle association, part of the statement. we look forward to working with congress on a bipartisan basis to find real solutions to protecting america's most valuable asset, our children. attacking firearms and ignoring children is not a solution to the crisis we face as a nation, only honest, law abiding gun owners will be affected and our children will remain vulnerable to the inevitability of more tragedy. to the inevitability of more tragedy, john king, to the latter part of that statement, congress could enact everything that the president
two months, three months, four months and more if need be when he wants to do big things on debt and deficit, big things on medicare, comprehensive immigration reform, and will be in a fight with republicans over that? this is going to be a test of how long the president is prepared to wage what -- to get hard stuff done to get an assault weapons ban, to get the magazine clips, universal background check is easier, but the president has to dig in and fight and it will be fascinating to watch....
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where was the deficit? where was the unemployment? where was the issue of poverty in america, which is increased under his watch? where is the hopelessness? >> yeah, where was the hopelessness? that's what the american public wants! i mean, have we -- have we forgotten fdr's famous inaugural, when he proclaimed, "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself." and also a second depression, rampant starvation, and my gut's telling me that europe's a tenderbox. ahh, what's the point? we're all doomed! i can't walk! i can't walk! >> welcome back to "morning joe." it is 24 past the hour. joining the table here in washington, associate editor and columnist for "the washington post," david ignatius, political commentator for abc news and contributor to npr, cokie roberts, and the chairman of the mississippi republican party, joe nassef. michael steele still with us as well. okay. a lot to talk about. you did not like the president's inaugural speech. we're going to get there. i'm going to read a portion of what you wrote. it's just stinging
where was the deficit? where was the unemployment? where was the issue of poverty in america, which is increased under his watch? where is the hopelessness? >> yeah, where was the hopelessness? that's what the american public wants! i mean, have we -- have we forgotten fdr's famous inaugural, when he proclaimed, "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself." and also a second depression, rampant starvation, and my gut's telling me that europe's a tenderbox. ahh, what's the...
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the huge budget arguments about to take place, the huge deficit spending stuff, the huge we're going to face it again, you know, debt ceiling stuff, what is the republican strategy in dealing with the democrats? david. >> you know, mike, i was on capitol hill this week talking to top republicans, and i'm getting a sense and you're seeing it written about as well, that they would maybe like to step away from the brink about the debt ceiling. they do want to force the issue about how can they get this president to agree to additional spending cuts? the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. i think they recognize that politically. they'll push -- the question is how -- how do they push on the debt ceiling? do they say, look, we'll give you a short-term extension of the debt ceiling for a certain amount of spending cuts, or we'll give you a long-term extension like you want for even more spending cuts. can they force entitlement reform around medicare, for instance, even some of the -- in their view -- more limited things that the president wants to do around means testing and age and indexi
the huge budget arguments about to take place, the huge deficit spending stuff, the huge we're going to face it again, you know, debt ceiling stuff, what is the republican strategy in dealing with the democrats? david. >> you know, mike, i was on capitol hill this week talking to top republicans, and i'm getting a sense and you're seeing it written about as well, that they would maybe like to step away from the brink about the debt ceiling. they do want to force the issue about how can...